tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-743510240401399331.post3894559091256158787..comments2023-09-30T23:22:48.898-07:00Comments on Improper Course: Radial or Full Rig - Part 1Doug / Pamhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05161131921177367663noreply@blogger.comBlogger7125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-743510240401399331.post-90651838657516886152014-02-25T07:15:36.366-08:002014-02-25T07:15:36.366-08:00This is a great comment!
Robert Scheidt apparentl...This is a great comment!<br /><br />Robert Scheidt apparently got down to 175 pounds (79kg) for Oman but he's tall and looks even taller when sailing. In fact, most of the sailors in the gold fleet were tall and skinny. So height should be taken into consideration but is rarely mentioned.<br /><br />It makes you really appreciate how Michael Blackburn (who is short) beat Tom Slingsby (who is not) to win the 2006 Worlds in Jeju South Korea when it was <i>really</i> windy.Doug / Pamhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05161131921177367663noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-743510240401399331.post-91703836346834744822014-02-24T14:31:17.381-08:002014-02-24T14:31:17.381-08:00Plenty of opportunity to race the Radial in the UK...Plenty of opportunity to race the Radial in the UK, and I'm sure you'd be made very welcome, by me at least :-)<br />But 76kg and over is always Standard rig in my book, thought height is also a major consideration.<br />On open water I sail a Radial rig at 74kg.<br />Several years ago a leading team USA olympic coach informed me that at 5'8" I would need to weigh ~90kg to have sufficient righting moment for a Standard rig on open water, which was the point at which I switched to the Radial rig 9 years ago, and a good choice it was. At most major events in the UK at least there are usually twice as many Radials as Standards, sometimes more, with a very high standard of competition.<br />Assuming a height greater than 5'10" I always consider the range for the Standard rig on open water to be 75kg to 85kgAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-743510240401399331.post-9129028054078627992014-02-23T19:52:07.809-08:002014-02-23T19:52:07.809-08:00Ah, but I see Mark got Douged in Chile, so there&#...Ah, but I see Mark got Douged in Chile, so there's hope for him yet.Tillermanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00639738519386820997noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-743510240401399331.post-16716968621309959702014-02-23T19:43:38.106-08:002014-02-23T19:43:38.106-08:00Yes, I think he decided being Marked was the bette...Yes, I think he decided being Marked was the better option./ Pamhttp://www.impropercourse.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-743510240401399331.post-69653698088654910052014-02-23T15:32:46.686-08:002014-02-23T15:32:46.686-08:00Whatever he does, he's screwed. If he stays in...Whatever he does, he's screwed. If he stays in the Radial at Masters Worlds he's going to get chicked in the GM fleet. And then in a couple of years when he's a GGM, if he sticks with the full rig he's going to get Marked.Tillermanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00639738519386820997noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-743510240401399331.post-59534750036381573332014-02-23T13:41:29.573-08:002014-02-23T13:41:29.573-08:00You have a point but I think the answer is actuall...You have a point but I think the answer is actually somewhere between the two. Al Clark won the Radial Master Worlds in 2011 and then won the Standard Master Worlds in 2013. <br /><br />If Doug would actually spend some time getting a better feel for the Radial then he could sail the rig best suited to the venue and increase his odds likely bringing his average up in both the full rig and Radial. But, the biggest factor is will he sail a Radial at local events and get a feel for the boat? I'd put the odds at zero percent. He looks at who is going to show up at various events and just can't help himself, he has to go head to head with them. <br /><br />If we had a big local Radial fleet, he'd switch in a heartbeat. But, I also think he's been with the full rig for too long ... it's "his" boat. He would probably have an easier time finding another gear in the full rig at a light weight than he would finding all the gears on the Radial, which may or may not be there. I once had an Olympic coach tell me the Radial was horribly balanced and a dog of a boat to sail. What if he's right?/Pamhttp://www.impropercourse.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-743510240401399331.post-12735592463697815312014-02-23T12:36:33.639-08:002014-02-23T12:36:33.639-08:00OK let's get scientific about this and only co...OK let's get scientific about this and only compare equivalent events so that as far as possible we are comparing results in fleets of the same standard, i.e. analyze only the Masters Worlds and ignore the others.<br /><br />Average of Doug's results in 8 Masters Worlds in a Standard Rig = 5.375<br />Average of Doug's results in 2 Masters Worlds in a Radial Rig = 4.000<br /><br />Conclusion: Doug scores better at Masters Worlds when sailing a Radial Rig (albeit only by one place on average once you ignore the rounding error.) <br /><br />And the other way to look at what you said in the long penultimate paragraph is that Doug has more room to improve his Radial sailing than his Standard Rig sailing. So there's more upside for him if he sticks with a Radial in future Masters Worlds.Tillermanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00639738519386820997noreply@blogger.com