tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-743510240401399331.post2054485029787361373..comments2023-09-30T23:22:48.898-07:00Comments on Improper Course: Brett Beyer’s Personal Experience With the MK II SailDoug / Pamhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05161131921177367663noreply@blogger.comBlogger9125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-743510240401399331.post-1758336227350674382016-01-27T13:13:45.999-08:002016-01-27T13:13:45.999-08:00Very good to hear, thanks for your update. I'm...Very good to hear, thanks for your update. I'm soon off to the Masters Week in Florida and will also pass along whatever I learn.Doug / Pamhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05161131921177367663noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-743510240401399331.post-28403832402730471022016-01-27T11:45:45.235-08:002016-01-27T11:45:45.235-08:00Doug
We just finished our NZ Laser nationals and ...Doug<br /><br />We just finished our NZ Laser nationals and I thought I would offer the following observations. Approximately half the Masters Standard fleet used the new MkII sail and the balance the old sail. We had 8 races in 15 to 30 knots. My conclusions from the results is that there is no significant performance difference in those conditions between the old and new sail. The results depended on the sailor and how they sailed rather than which sail they used, just as it should be. New sails placed 1,3,4,6 and 9 in the top 10. Old sails 2,5,7,8 and 10. The sailors using the new sail were very positive about the look, feel and performance right up to the 30 knots we had at times in the last race. My conclusion is that the new sail will be more durable but perform very closely to the old sail as was the aim of the change and that the class is onto a winner with the MkII sail.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-743510240401399331.post-10123681020053503752016-01-24T21:24:33.008-08:002016-01-24T21:24:33.008-08:00Great question!
Also, the top sailors have had a ...Great question!<br /><br />Also, the top sailors have had a preference between the old North and Hyde sails. I wonder if we'll learn that the three MK II sails also have their strength and weaknesses.<br /><br />And when the new top sections are available, we'll have ten different combinations to understand, learn to use, and compete with.<br /><br />The Laser's one-design concept may be at risk.Doug / Pamhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05161131921177367663noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-743510240401399331.post-66417268163020203072016-01-24T14:45:41.964-08:002016-01-24T14:45:41.964-08:00Wow, three sail choices... North, Hyde, and now Pr...Wow, three sail choices... North, Hyde, and now Pryde. Is there a way to determine the manufacturer when looking at a new Mark II sail? (I know in the past North had the Laser symbol on one side, and Hyde on the other side... but with three sailmakers, that technique won't work perfectly...)Al Sargenthttp://www.alsargent.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-743510240401399331.post-16096497181292128882016-01-21T07:07:53.730-08:002016-01-21T07:07:53.730-08:00Abe, I agree 1000%.
In the 60's, I sailed OK ...Abe, I agree 1000%.<br /><br />In the 60's, I sailed OK Dinghies and those who could afford it had different masts for different conditions. If you guessed right, you did well but if you did not you were hosed for the racing that day. The worst situation was having a heavy-air mast when the wind died… you could not point and went sideways.<br /><br />Having to select a sail for a particular event introduces problems that the Laser's strict one-design was supposed to eliminate.<br />Doug / Pamhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05161131921177367663noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-743510240401399331.post-64779658754982779892016-01-20T23:52:32.726-08:002016-01-20T23:52:32.726-08:00I'm concerned that it's against the pure o...I'm concerned that it's against the pure one design spirit of the Laser rules to be choosing between the two sails based on what offers better performance. <br /><br />Not judging, if I was going to Mexico I'd be doing the same thing. I'm just not sure it's the best thing for the class. <br /><br />The Mark V Radial (or was it the Mark IV) was known to be fast, and a few people stockpiled them and used them to great effect at Open and Masters Worlds for quite a few years afterward. Hopefully that doesn't happen with the new full rig sail, but if the old sail is known to be faster in some conditions, I bet a few with deep pockets will do it. <br /><br />Maybe we need a class rule forbidding the old sail at major regattas after a grace period of a year or two. What do you think?Abenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-743510240401399331.post-36240496387059328242016-01-20T09:27:39.252-08:002016-01-20T09:27:39.252-08:00Hmmmm, this makes it interesting.
My strength is ...Hmmmm, this makes it interesting.<br /><br />My strength is medium conditions and my weakness is stronger conditions. It's human nature to practice what we're good at but the Law of Diminishing Returns minimizes improvements. So I'll probably stay with the older design and sacrifice speed below 15k to improve speed above 15k.<br /><br />But we all have several more months to decide.Doug / Pamhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05161131921177367663noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-743510240401399331.post-4014832864012759522016-01-20T06:41:15.850-08:002016-01-20T06:41:15.850-08:00I sailed the new sail 1 month in Thailand now and ...I sailed the new sail 1 month in Thailand now and completely confirm. It's more difficult to depower the new one. I'm pretty heavy and like this but really wonder how lighterlors guys will do that Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03453899886721637635noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-743510240401399331.post-34790282197205427572016-01-19T13:50:38.457-08:002016-01-19T13:50:38.457-08:00Thanks for sharing. Very interesting yet also slig...Thanks for sharing. Very interesting yet also slightly unnerving as I thought I had made up my mind using the new sail in Mexico.<br /><br />Having sailed the MkII most of last season on a lake with generally light winds and sometimes a few races in breezier conditions I would also add that the old sail seems to have a slight advantage in very light conditions but from 5 knots and up the new one seems faster.<br /><br />What are your thoughts now after having heard what Brett had to say?Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05787396894664478879noreply@blogger.com